Sunday, November 2, 2008
These are just one of the very few threats I am receiving in my comment board and email! So who else would these threats come from, obviously it would come from those who are directly fired on in this blog - NuSkin members, members of NSE Philippines, located at the 15th floor Octagon bldg - yes they are now sending in threats out of desperation!
Fuck you NSE Philippines members!
No threat will stop me! Coz if anything happens to me, the whole public knows and Google themselves knows that there is no one else to blame except for you NuSkin members!
You think coming up with threats will stop me from exposing your trash? Why not change your ways of recruiting and maybe something better will happen!
Notice that everyone are against how you recruit? You do nothing but scam, and now you are sending out threats?
15th floor Octagon bldg, NSE Philippines members sending out threats! Yes there is no one else to blame but you guys and your members!
That is how scumbags you are! You are desperate! You are fuckin desperate! Why? Broke? I feel so sorry for you!
First you misrepresent to people, then once you irk them that makes them create blogs against you, you send out threats?
Change your ways, threats will not work!
Monday, October 27, 2008
Telling all these fresh grads that you are hiring for a Junior or Senior Marketing Executive position and to head straight to your cult at the 15th floor Octagon Bldg when you just want them to be part of your networking group is a total scam!
You do not say the truth at NSE Philippines! Professionalism to you guys is lying!
Then I am sure one of you are to comment here that why can;t we check out the business? Fuck, hell no! We ain't gonna be trained to scam other people and make more enemies!
If not of your recruitment strategies, the 15th floor octagon would not have been famous over Google! This blog would not even be existent if not of your recruitment strategies!
Why not say the truth scammers? Why not be all out saying that you are NuSkin and you are networking or MLM?
"Oh we are professional, that is why we do not mention that we are MLM or networking"
You mother fuckers are actually destroying the networking industry! MLM is an awesome system, it gives each and every person equal opportunities! Why are you ashamed to say you are MLM?
Why when people asks if you are networking, you say "no"!
Lying is your game NuSkin or NSE Philippines scammers!
You are professional when it comes to scamming people! And never professional in proper business ethics!
Common, none of you has ever yet defended the manner of recruitment!
Why not say the truth?
Why hide that you are MLM?
Why the word professional when you are just there to deceive?
Why go for fresh grads and offer them junior executive positions when you are actually offering them to be part of your networking scheme?
I am happy that these fresh grads are getting smarter!
And please do not talk as though you are the richest! Coz Lucio Tan, John Gokongwei, Henry Sy, Jaime Zobel or even George Ty are the richest in the country, and they are not part of NuSkin or NSE Philippines!
Sunday, October 26, 2008
I am getting lots of comments and emails of people complaining about this Toby Tangsoc, doing nothing but scamming fresh grads into being part of NuSkin! No the term is not "offering an opportunity" but instead, the best term is "SCAMMING!"
Hey Mr. Tangsoc, who the fuck do you think you are to scam these students to thinking what you are offering is a job opportunity? Why fresh grads? Coz they are so eager to look for a job that they become an easy prey to your scamming schemes?
You are a disgrace to NSE Philippines of Nu Skin Mr. Toby Tangsoc! You are one big mother fucker! You force the parents of these students to give out information by saying that you are a company offering a job opportunity! You never mention the name of NuSkin, you never even mention that your offer is to be a network marketer!
Afraid of you business Mr. Tangsoc? Ain't confident about NuSkin Mr. Tangsoc? Desperate to make money thats why you are resorting to such moves? Broke Mr. Tangsoc? Or do you have huge debts and bouncing checks to deal with?
I pity you Mr. Toby Tangsoc! you are definitely one of the scumbags behind it all! Just when someone in PinoyMoneyTalk is confidently advertising NuSkin by mentioning its name, its opportunity and that it is a network marketing company, you are ruining the reputation more!
You deserve to be axed Mr. Toby Tangsoc! Better change your ways, coz your way of recruiting and teaching how to recruit is bound to end!
"Please proceed to the 15th floor octagon bldg... we are professional... I am sparing time for you..." FUCK YOU TANGSOC! Who the fuck are you intimidating!? You ain't gonna intimidate the students Tangsoc! You ain't gonna scam fresh grads!
To all those other NuSkin scammers, better change your ways, coz just like Toby Tangsoc, I will make you all famous here! Thanks to all the emails and comments I am receiving, you scammers will all be famous soon!
Friday, October 10, 2008
Hey Nuskin Scammers! Thought I was done with you eh? Well I ain't! And guess what?! You are all fuckin losers! People now are so much aware that the 15th floor Octagon Bldg is a haven of scammers, people who like hiding the truth and misrepresenting? So what is your next move? Sue Google for finding this blog?
If you do check the comments, many are just so irritated with your way of recruiting! You say shit that is not true!
Not saying the job description over the phone is unprofessional?
Tell me, what the fuck is wrong of saying you are a networking company? You are ashamed of people to know that you are a networking company? Seems like it! you should not be in the business at all! You are ashamed of what you are doing! You got no confidence in your company!
Is that what they teach you at your so called professional NSE Philippines? I am also reading comments that you even scam each other! What the fuck?! Maybe in order for you to be professional deceivers and scammers, you practice scamming each other! Since you were able to successfully scam a fellow member, what more of innocent people!
And what is this move that you are targetting students since they are the most gulible? Well too bad they are smarter now!
There is really money in networking for as long as it is legal. BUT you have to consider the training the company will give you. In NuSkin or Pharmanex or NSE Philippines, they teach you how not to be transparent! Yes, I am sure you yourself had witnessed it!
Is thats what you want to be? If you really do want to be a professional scammer, by all means do join NuSkin and they will teach you the best techniques on how to deceive, misrepresent and mislead! That way, not only will you create more enemies, but you will be popular too when your name appears in this blog! If you notice on the right side, names are starting to appear!
They will teach you how to make money (if you will) by scamming! By lying! By not being transparent! That is how NuSkin Philippines defines professionalism!
They have their own cult, and to them, saying the truth is a mortal sin!
And to you NuSkin cult members, I am not done with you yet! This blog shall simply get more and more informative!
Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Yes you NSE Philippines or NuSkin scammers based on the 15th floor octagon bldg, you are a dumbfuck! No shit huh!? Now you are desperate because people are now questioning your manners of recruitment! You tell the people "are you rich" when you can't prove anything yourselves!
So what do you have up your sleeves, scammers? What do you have to prove that you are rich? A picture of your neighbor's Corolla? Where are your Ferraris? Porsches? Properties in Forbes? All you can prove is you are rich coz you own fuckin iPhones and Nokia N95s? No shit that anyone with a car can buy those items! So who is the dumbfuck now, NuSkin scammers?
Losers you are NuSkin scammers, you are now resorting to desperate means to recruit! Thanks to Google and Yahoo, you can't play dumb with us anymore! Not even can you fuck around our dear students! They are smarter than you! They want a better future than being a professional scammer!
Dear readers, these people in NuSkin has lost it! Well they are still around and even though they are the talk of the town thanks to the internet, they are still up to their evil ways of misleading and misrepresenting!
They say they are rich, but do you think you ought to believe that, readers? Remember the nature of their work, they are to deceive!
I once caught up with this so called "high earner" and I caught him twice! He said he is earning $100,000 per month only to find out he is driving a 96 Civic! Common, $100,000 when he can afford a BMW! No proof of his income! No passbook, nothing! Thats what they teach you to do also, and that is to lie and scam! Lie about your income! When I went to their bldg, I saw many of them members commute! Rich but no cars? Their highest earner was riding a jeep! Nothing wrong with riding jeeps but if you are rich, wouldn't you bring a car or take a taxi?
Then guess what, they scam and mislead even fellow members especially the new ones!
So in other words, the NSE Philippines doesnt stop before entering the 15th floor Octagon bldg, it continues even when you are a member!
So who is the dumbfuck now, NuSkin members?
Remember, for as long as you do not change your system of recruiting and I get to read blogs of those you victimized, this blog shall get longer and longer, better and better!
- A section that features the names of NSE Philippines or NuSkin members who had scammed other members into joining their cult.
- A section of links of different blogs of those who were given that phonecall
- More keywords to make it more searchable in Google and Yahoo. Yes I asked a favor from SEO people to help me get this blog more exposed
- The use of Google Adwords or paid advertisement to get in more traffic
- Polls to make this blog more interactive
Yes, you college students are now the targets of the professional scammers based on the 15th floor Octagon bldg, the office of NSE Philippines otherwise known as NuSkin, a network marketing company! The company is not a scam, but the people and their way of doing business is a total scam!
They know students, especially those about to graduate are very gullible to the smell of a corporate job offer and cash! 30k offer nowadays sounds so awesome, but yes the bulk of earning these 30k is to scam other people!
These NuSkin or NSE Philippines scammers at the 15th floor octagon building will tell you that you earn through product sales, but then later on they tell you in order to really make money, you would have to recruit, and then they teach you how to scam, in other words, they teach you how to misrepresent, mislead, and lie!
Students, your teachers spend so much time in teaching you good values, and ending being a professional scammer is sure to make them sad! Being part of NuSkin changes your way of thinking, they brainwash you, teaching you how to deceive people with such a fuckin "professional" tone, use evasive tactics to avoid being asked if their company is networking or MLM! They teach you to say "no we are not networking or mlm" when actually, they are!
Is that the type of business you would want to get into dear students?
Remember, when you get a mysterious call, please do ask the following questions:
- Nature of the job - this should be answered directly and no other bullshit
- Name of company - if they elude this question on your first attempt, then that is your answer
- If it is networking or MLM - if they say no, ask again and again!
Well, unless you do want to have a career as a professional scammer, and become rich scamming other people, then by all means join NSE Philippines or NuSkin! But also be prepared not to be scammed not only once but twice!
Dear students, they need you and you do not need them!
Always remember that! They are victorious when they make a scammer out of you!
Thanks to Google and Yahoo, more students are waking up, and thanks to this blog I had confirmed that it had saved a student!
And I am not done with you NSE Philippines or NuSkin scammers! This blog shall get worse and worse! Names shall come out, better SEO techniques, and guess what, Google Adwords and Yahoo Overture! hahaha
You fuckin scammers are done! Better change your way of recruiting, or this blog shall get worse and worse!
I would like to quote an entry from his blog above BUT, what you will read here is just the tip of the iceberg, you simply have to read his whole article.
Below is an article I found in his blog that caught my attention! I call it "a day in the life of a professional scammer". It actually shows you the actual sales process of a NuSkin member in scamming an innocent victim. If you are a NuSkin scammer, below would be the process you would be going through:
- First, start by getting a lot of contacts that you can contact then starting contacting them.
- You have to start the call by using phrases about them even if you don’t know them. Tell them that you got your info from a friend, headhunter, friend of a friend or even from your dog.
- Now if they start asking questions, try to change the topic or simply tell them that it is easier for a horse to fit inside the head of a needle than for you to answer their inquiries over the phone or through text. Tell them that it is very complicated however…
- You are supposed to be a busy man (remember you have to call a lot of people) so simply invite them over to 15th floor Octagon building so that all their questions will be answered. No more, no less! Remember that, the less they know about your company and what your ultimate motive is, the better.
- Since you are a terribly busy man, you should tell them that you are giving them an opportunity to earn a lot of money and you are doing your best to sacrifice time from your busy schedule just to give them this (make them feel important and loved). Your goal here is to make them commit into coming to your base!
- If they say yes that they will go, you have to ask all your fellow members to help you make him shell out his cash when he is already at your based. Make sure that when he leaves the 15th floor octagon building, he has lost 12k or you have his word that he will join and pay up.
- After the deed is done, smile and repeat again from step one. Easy money baby!
Thank you Silkenhut for such a wonderful blog! Very informative!
That one above is just part of what you will be reading, because what he has there is an unbiased write-up which ends up making you decide.
But please do take note that there is something not much of you guys know.
I got an email from this fellow and he had told me the scamming of NuSkin members doesn't stop once you are recuited, you are even scammed once you are a member! Scamming practices are just so evident in that cult! They practice scamming each other, especially with those new recruits, and these new recruits learn to be professioanl scammers!
Well yes they may be professional, but they actually meant "we are professional scammers and liars here!"
Students, please beware of this! They are after you! They know you are gullible so please take note of what you will be reading here and from Silkenhut's blog! Before making a decision in being a professional scammer of NSE Philippines, do not think short term and do not be lured by money! Opportunities are just flying in the air, and being a scammer to make money is just one of those ways that will get you in deep shit in the future!
Sunday, July 27, 2008
15th floor octagon bldg, NSE Philippines, NuSkin, Pharmanex! home of the world's best scammers!
15th floor octagon bldg, NSE Philippines, NuSkin, Pharmanex! home of the world's best scammers!
15th floor octagon bldg, NSE Philippines, NuSkin, Pharmanex! home of the world's best scammers!
15th floor octagon bldg, NSE Philippines, NuSkin, Pharmanex! home of the world's best scammers!
I got an email from this person sharing me a story of how they even scam each other inside! I am just waiting for his confirmation to post a portion of his email as proof!
Anyway to make the long story short, not only to they scam those new recruits, but they SCAM EACH OTHER INSIDE! They tell you first that you have to buy a package worth 12,500! But then you realize that you may avail a certain package worth 8k for the same privileges!
Then they scam you once again to dish out more money in order to fast track your income by buying 6 packages worth another 30k! What the fuck!? Then if you do that, you may start receiving 150k per month!
This fellow is complaining because he feels he is being scammed already INSIDE! Yes he is a member already but he is still being scammed by FELLOW NUSKIN OR NSE PHILIPPINES MEMBERS!!! Talk about professionalism NSE Philippines?
Your own members are complaining assholes! You are a world of fuckin scammers! Some training huh!? good thing you got good products to save your asses!
15th floor octagon bldg, NSE Philippines, NuSkin, Pharmanex! home of the world's best scammers!
15th floor octagon bldg, NSE Philippines, NuSkin, Pharmanex! home of the world's best scammers!
15th floor octagon bldg, NSE Philippines, NuSkin, Pharmanex! home of the world's best scammers!
15th floor octagon bldg, NSE Philippines, NuSkin, Pharmanex! home of the world's best scammers!
15th floor octagon bldg? NSE Philippines? Pharmanex? Job? Position? Professional? Thanks to Google and the internet, no one is now bared to information! Hahahahaha! You scammers at NuSkin better quit! People are getting smart nowadays!
Thanks to this blog and the blogs of those you attempted to victimize out there, people are now aware of how you scam people! Everyone knows you at NuSkin are scammers! You fuckin mislead and misrepresent! Even students are smarter than you now, thanks to Google and Yahoo! Thanks also to SEO, your name is fuckin ruined! So what is next? What do you have up your sleeves?
Toby Tianco, Pauline Tating, Venus Lazo, T Rovel, Niko Gonzales, Joel Araoho... you fuckin losers! Your names are now known worldwide!
I love Google! With Google, we are saved of our time and resources from being scammed! hahahaha!
So what do you have now? Come up with a new bible and use the verses to scam people into your cult? Yes you at NuSkin are scammers! Fuckin scammers! Fuckin professional you call yourselves? No shit huh!?
Let me quote you something from Robert Kiyosaki's book "Why We Want You to Be Rich":
"The difference between God and gold is the letter L. The letter L stands for loser, looter, lousy leader and liar. If you do not get rid of those descriptions from your character, you will never develop your Midas touch - the ability to turn anything you touch into gold."
So they are out victimizing students again! Well thanks to this blog ,an innocent student who was about to be victimized saw this blog was saved from being part of NuSkinsm, the cult that believes that lying and deceiving are acts of God and that misrepresenting is professionalism. Well here is her blog from multiply
Thanks for mentioning this blog pugakgirl! Please help in spreading the word to create awareness among you students!
Dear students, when you are offered a job, the first thing you are to bring is a resume. Its plain and simple, so start scratching your head if a company calls you offering a job without a resume. Secondly, you are always told of the job description and nature of the job even on the phone!
Do not believe what those fuckin members at NuSkin or NSE tells you! If they say it is unbeing professional to share or discuss a job description over the phone, then tell them they can take their professionalism definition and SHOVE IT UP THEIR ASSES! Big contracts are closed over the phones, so what the fuck makes those companies unprofessional?
Students, they will use intimidation to get you! Do not fall for that! Remember, they need you! You do not need them! There are so many ways to get rich in this world, and there are other MLMs out there that teaches you real professional business by being transparent on your offer. They need you because once they get you, you make them richer! Its that simple! They will teach you how to deceive, lie, misrepresent! They will teach you how to victimize! And as you go out and victimize, they sit down pretty waiting for the money! So you would end up teaching your poor recruit how to lie, deceive, misrepresent and mislead!
If you are up to that set-up though, then by all means join NSE! But watch out if you do, because your name may appear in this blog soon!
I will soon be compiling names of Nuskinism cult members to watch out for!
And to you NuSkinism members, stop fuckin victimizing assholes! I am not done with you yet! I fell silent but it doesn't mean I am done!
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
RCBC rob-slay suspect gets CHR protection
MANILA, Philippines -- Saying he was under constant threat from those who killed his father, a suspect in the robbery-massacre at the Rizal Commercial Bank Corp. (RCBC) branch in Cabuyao, Laguna, has sought the protection of the Commission on Human Rights (CHR).
Jake Javier, 23, was placed under the protective custody of the CHR Tuesday, shortly after he was picked up in Sta. Maria, Bulacan, by the commission’s lawyers, his family and former Batangas Vice Governor Ricky Recto.
“I don’t trust the police anymore, especially after what they did to my father,” said Javier in Filipino.
Javier’s father, Vivencio, was killed by intelligence agents of the Batangas police who raided their house in the village of Pagaspas, Tanauan City, at midnight on May 22.
The police claimed father and son were members of the Lucido-Javier robbery gang who staged the heist and killed the 10 persons who were in the bank at the time.
Vivencio was one of four alleged suspects who were killed in three separate police operations in Batangas and Laguna one week after the robbery.
CHR Chair Leila de Lima said the commission placed Javier under its custody after she consulted the two other CHR commissioners.
De Lima said Javier’s stay at the CHR was provisional.
“This is just a temporary physical custody. If a valid order from any court, like a warrant of arrest, is issued we will turn him over,” she said at a press briefing in Quezon City.
Javier, his mother and his lawyer later signed an agreement with De Lima regarding the conditions of his stay at the CHR.
Recto said he advised Javier’s family to go to the CHR the day after he learned of Vivencio’s killing and the threats to the family.
He said Vivencio, a former village captain, was one of his political supporters in Tanauan.
Made up story
Reached on his mobile phone, Senior Supt. Aaron Fidel, head of Task Force RCBC, said the police respected the CHR decision to place Javier under its custody.
“He (Javier) can stay at the CHR as long as he wants,” he said.
Asked about the threats on Javier, he said the suspect was only “making up a story to cover up” his complicity in the case.
“We’re not behind any attempts to kill him. In fact, we want him alive so he can talk about what happened in that robbery-massacre,” Fidel said.
Fidel said Javier was one of six persons the police have charged with robbery with multiple homicide in connection with the bloody bank job.
He said one of the witnesses saw Javier enter the bank on the day of the incident.
He also lashed out at De Lima for “prejudging” the police team that shot and killed the elder Javier.
In an interview with the Philippine Daily Inquirer, Jake Javier said he was asleep at home when the robbery occurred on May 16.
He said he only learned about the incident when he saw it on television at noon that day.
This is somewhat off-topic but I can't help it!
The CHR should be completely revamped! Yes all its people now should be fired out of office! First, they investigated those policement who killed those Abu Sayyaf members who attempted a jailbreak in Taguig! Those ASG people where the same ones who BEHEADED innocent lives and the CHR is protecting them!
Now they are protecting the criminals of THE WORST BANK ROBBERY CRIME EVER COMMITTED!!! You protect those people CHR when you can't protect the victim's families???
I think Leila De Lima and those two other CHR commissioners should be beaten up by these criminals so they would know how it feels to be victims!
How can you Leila!? What the fuck is running in your head? Can't you see that you are protecting a criminal when you should be protecting the victims more!? Where you able to do anything when those bank victims where "executed"? No you weren't! You know why? You know you cannot get money from them that is why you declined to!
You opted to protect the criminal because you can find ways to extort money from the police and file charges against enforcers of the law to be able to make more money!
you Leila and the rest of your CHR people are CRIMINALS! You defend criminals! You defend those people who had committed the worst crimes!
You had those policemen who killed those ruthless criminals investigated! You sided with the Abu Sayyaf!
My only wish is for you to get kidnapped by those people! I would rejoice if that happens because I want you CHR people to feel how it is to be victims of these terrorism acts and crimes!
The Philippine Commission on Human Rights is now known as the Philippine CRIMINAL HUMAN RIGHT! Yes that is what you are!
You abuse your positions to protect criminals! We all know that every person got rights, even criminals, BUT WE SEE YOU FOCUSED MORE ON PROTECTING CRIMINALS THAN VICTIMS!
I can't wait to see any of you CHR people fall victim to these crimes! You really have to experience it for you to know how those victims felt!
The Philippine CRIMINAL HUMAN RIGHTS should be dissolved to be replaced by the Philippine COMMISSION ON HUMAN RIGHTS, a real one and not a poser one!
Monday, July 7, 2008
I got an email from a student, and thanks for all your emails, complaining that someone called him offering a job! Yes, it was a job offer daw with an attractive salary! Company is NSE Philippines and he was ask to proceed to the 15th floor of the Octagon bldg for an interview! Well he did fall for it but seeing it was NuSkin in the logbook, he decided to leave, wasted 300 pesos on those fuckers!
ITs like this, the NSE Philippines or NuSkin people know very well that you students are eager to work for a company with an attractive offer! Admit it, being a fresh grad or about to graduate, you would love the feeling of a waiting job with a starting salary of 15k to 30k per month!
Exactly! They will capitalize on that!
They will take advantage of that weakness of yours, the part where you students get the opportunity for a job!
Here is what they will do, and for you students, please take note of the bold lettered words because those are the keywords.
1. They will call you offering a job with a good salary of 20k to 30k monthly. The company is a US based company!
2. They will tell you that you were referred by a headhunter and that you sound very professional, you are hard working, and you are committed.
3. They will tell you that you exactly fit the position they are looking for. Ask what position, and they will tell you junior executive.
Now here is where the juice flows in...
4. They will tell you to proceed to the 15th floor Octagon bldg., Ortigas Center for your pre-qualification interview.
5. Once you ask the company name, they will evade your question. Ask it again and they will tell you NSE Philippines or Synergy Global or Synergy International or Pharmanex!
6. You decide to ask the nature of the job. Then they will give you a reply "it will be very unprofessional to discuss this over the phone so we would like to invite you to come at the 15th floor Octagon bldg."
7. Knowing that you are a student, they will now use "sindak" warfare! They will tell you "we are very professional here. Please be on time for your pre-qualification interview and I am blocking out my schedule for you. So do I confirm our meeting?" Once you give in to those words, thats it, you are caught!
Now just to open your thinking dear students, an interview is different from a product presentation! What they will do to you is a product presentation and not an interview! They just used the word interview to lure you in.
Salary is different from commissions. Even look it up in the labor code. When you say salary, every 15th or 30th you are paid if you work or not. Once you enter, you receive compensation! Commissions is based on sales. No sales, no commissions. What these people will give you is actually commissions! And not a fixed salary as what they originally offered you over the phone! So if you do not sell, you do not get anything. Plain and simple! They used the term "salary" just to lure you in!
When a company offering a real job calls you, they right away give the job description. They do not tell you "it is unprofessional for us to discuss the nature of the job here".
Last but not least, take note of the word "professional". They will use it para sindakin kayo. They will use that word to cover up that they are a networking company.
Dear students, if you would really like to get into networking though, I suggest that you choose the company for proper training!
If you will notice dear student, people has been ranting about NSE Philippines or NuSkin using deceit tactics, misrepresentation, and misleading strategies! They are not against the company nor the product, they are pissed on how they recruit people by lying! Yes, they lie! If you ask them "are you networking", they say "no we are not". Hello!? Not networking but getting incentives when they recruit? I think this is way off!
Now you know the keywords, what is it you have to do?
1. Don't get carried away and probe. Ask them the nature of the job, ask them the name of the company. A real corporate job will be trasparent over the phone about the nature of your job.
2. Ask if it is networking or MLM. If they deny it, probe more.
3. Ask for a website or a company profile to be emailed to you.
Now once you have caught that they are NuSkin people, then simply say "sorry I am not interested" if you are not really interested. BUT, if you want to become a business person moulded on a foundation of using deceit, mislead, misrepresent, and lies, then by all means join NuSkin! That is how they will train you dear student.
Want proof? Search Google by typing NSE Philippines or 15th floor Octagon bldg. Check all the blogs, all different blogs from different people, notice that all their stories are similar about the phone call!
Dear student, true professionalism in business is transparency. Yes that is true professioanlism. Once you join NuSkin, that would be the same way how they will train you, to be like them, to know how to deceive, mislead and misrepresent. To cover up the truth when recruiting. But then again if you want to be like them, then by all means join them.
Last but not least, NuSkin or NSE Philippines is not the only way to get rich in this world! You do not need to deceive, mislead or misrepresent to become rich!
Sunday, July 6, 2008
Awareness is the key! Their use of deceit and misleading strategies have to be erradicated!
Friday, July 4, 2008
I really pitty this company, such good products but they haver the wrong people! For some reason, the members have junked the name of NuSkin. They killed the name of the company they are proud of! What an irony!
If only they could have done things properly!
If only they did not use deception, misrepresentation, and misleads.
They could have been in par with AVON, or even FLP!
In FLP, people do not mislead, in fact, they are proud of being in FLP that they ask you "want to be part of FLP" and no bullshit like "we are looking for a partner for the expansion of a U.S. based company..."
I am not part of FLP nor am I endorsing, I am just showing you the differences between both!
Change you recruiting style NuSkin or NSE Philippines! Quit your strategy of using misleading tactics, NuSkin members!
Stop using the name of God to recruit!
Stop acting like professional wannabes, Nuskin members!
Coz for as long as you misrepresent and mislead when recruiting, you will always be wannabes, Nuskin members!
Change your dictionaries! Get rid of your cult!
You are actually digging the grave of your own company! You are giving it a bad name! People are now allergic to the name of NuSkin coz of you NuSkin members!
You destroyed it! Its all your fault, Nuskin members!
What is the point of misrepresenting when recruiting, Nuskin members? Why the lack of confidence?
They are now using names of great seminars like T. Harv Eker or Robert Kiyosaki seminars.
It is simply like this...
Someone will call you saying that they are inviting you to be part of a FREE MILLIONAIRE MIND INTENSIVE SEMINAR in Manila and after that, you will be part of an elite team. The Millionaire Mind Intensive Seminar is usually held at Singapore with T. Harv Eker as the speaker, therefore, this NuSkin group is using the name of the seminar in order to recruit people.
Once you show interest, they will tell you to meet them in a coffee shop, usually Starbucks, and ask you to list down your net worth.
Now you become curious and ask what this is all about, and here is where you start becoming fishy.
They tell you that they will explain the team and Millionaire Mind Intensive Seminar when you meet because it is too complicated. Then you may decide to ask if this is an invite to an MLM company or networking...
Their answer? NO it is not! If you ask "are you sure this is not", then they even get mad at you!
Now you meet in Starbucks, you buy food, you pay for gas or public transpo and when you get there, they explain about the FREE Millionaire Mind Intensive seminar and what you will learn.
But is it really free?
NO IT IS NOT! If you want to be part of the Millionaire Mind Intensive seminar, then you have to be part of their NuSkin group! You have just been kidnapped and duped again!
Now if you still want to take the seminar but not be a part of their NuSkin group, you will have to pay daw consultation fee which is about 10k per hour!
How bullshit is that!
Success Resources has to learn about this!
These people are using the name of Harv Eker and Millionaire Mind Intensive to recruit! They are using the name of Eker to deceive!
So better be careful and be alert!
FYI: There is no Millionaire Mind Intensive in Manila, only in Singapore! Here is the website:
Do not believe them about an offer in Manila, that would be unauthorized unless they show proof!
Also, I read that they are using again a new name, it is SYNERGY INTERNATIONAL so please do take note of that, dear readers!
These NuSkin cult members will not stop! They will find ways and ways to deceive and bullshit you! They can't accept ethical norms. They feel doing business the proper way is a mortal sin!
They feel that recruitment using forms of deceit and misrepresenting are professional!
If you really want to be part of an MLM, please consider others who will give you PROPER TRAINING! Consider those that trains you to do things the right way!
Thursday, July 3, 2008
Wednesday, July 2, 2008
Presenting the Award of best actors and best actresses to.... MEMBERS OF NUSKIN, for playing a very good role in playing dumb, and pretending not to know what NuSkin is!
I would like to somehow give credits to NuSkin or NSE Philippines members for acting as though they do not know what MLM or NuSkin is when being questioned over the phone. They also play a very good role in acting like a professional over the phone! They act so well that they can cover up all the truth!
THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS PREVAILS, NUSKIN ASSHOLES!!! THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!
Well, at least NuSkin members are assured of a good future in being actors and actresses! They have duped so much people into believing that their offer is a regular job with a high paying salary or a company in expansion! When asked if it is MLM, they FUCKIN DENY IT CLEAN AND CLEAR! Not until you reach the fuckin 15th floor of the dreaded Octagon bldg!
Luckily, the number people getting duped by these cult members are going down, thanks to Google and Yahoo!
NuSkin cult people, why oh why can't you tell the truth right away? Why beat around the fuckin bush? If you claim that your company can make lives better and your products are the best, why need to misrepresent and mislead? Don' you have any confidence? Or are you just playing safe so that your rejection rate is less?
You are totally fuckin wrong NuSkin members! You are digging your grave further! Thanks to Google and Yahoo, you guys are looking more stupid than ever! People simply does not like to be like you! They don't wanna be liars! They don't wanna be deceivers!
You had attempted so much "kidnap tactics" but with the power of the internet, you guys are fucked!
And that is why this blog is up! To create awareness! To open the eyes of people about to fall into your lier! Unless you change your tactics in recruiting, this will continue!
You in NuSkin? Richer than us? Who would ever fuckin believe you??? You have lost credibility already, assholes! NO SHIT!
From the time these people caught you lying and attempting a mislead (again, thanks to Google and Yahoo), they have lost trust in you! You have fuckin destroyed the MLM industry in the Philippines!
No use being good actors and actresses anymore in business! Maybe applying in ABS-CBN or GMA talent centers would do you better! Besides, you guys are good actors!
Tuesday, July 1, 2008
I did a search in Google and Yahoo on other legit MLM and Direct Selling companies in the Philippines like Amway, FLP, Avon, etc and I have learned that NuSkin or NSE Philippines got the most rants!
No it is not the products, in fact, NuSkin got potentially good products...
It is the members and way of recruiting many people are angry at!
In sales, we are taught never to misrepresent and to be transparent with what are offer is. So I do not understand why these cult members of NuSkinism have to misrepresent and deceive people when being asked! Maybe they think that bringing these innocent victims into their "church" is proving effective.
It absolutely is not! They use names of Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump saying that MLM is a good business, so why oh why can't they say right away on first call that their offer is MLM!? They have to waste their victims money!
Robert Kiyosaki has always stressed out that if you want to be a good entrepreneur, get into sales, and MLM or network marketing companies give the best training. That is true. But NuSkin??? Teaching you to misrepresent and deceive? Well they are absolutely teaching you how to sell yourself to the police towards jail!
I will be posting more and more entries here, everyday! I think NSE has went overboard in duping people, the biggest story was that of my friend who flew all the way from Davao and left her sick mom just to learn she was scammed by these NuSkin people!
On the 15th floor of this building lives a religion, a cult! They are called NuSkinism! They have their own god, they have their own beliefs, in fact, they have their own dictionary!
They believe that their god is different from our almighty God! To them, they always with God to give us wisdom and understanding to be part of their cult! Common NuSkin cult members, isn't it in the 10 commandments not to lie?! Isn't telling people that NSE Philippines or NuSkin is not MLM or networking just to deceive them to go to your turf a lie, an act of deception?!
How about your dictionary? Professionalism - which you in your NuSkinism cult is defined as mislead, misrepresent and deceive!?
Mangloloko kayo ng tao mga gago kayo sa NuSkin! You fuckers duped so much people, good thing they are smart, and thanks to Google, your victims are minimized.
I betcha you are all mad at Yahoo and Google now right!? Coz people now has ways to find out who NSE PHilippines or NuSkin really is, that is why they back out! Well, that is why many of us you called are so thankful for Google, in fact, I wanna write them a letter! I am still a faithful roman Catholic because of Google, and I did not fall into joining your cult!
I entered the dreaded 15th floor of that bldg right above bfore, you all seem from a different world! I felt I was out of Earth! Each of you guys claiming you are all rich when I saw many of those who claimed so flagging down jeepneys!
Who would ever believe you!? Your phone call alone is a fact, no need to Google no further. You telling us that you ain't networking or MLM and not being transparent with your answers is a very clear indication that you guys think deceiving gives you more indulgences in life!
You guys made a shit out of a potentially good company with good products! You members turned this company into a cult!
Your shit will all be exposed assholes! I am so rich that I have all the time in this world to expose your shits! People will know, and more will know! It is up to them to join or not, but it is best to keep our side informed as not to be deceived and mislead by you at NuSkinism
Oh yeah, and here is another interesting story.... CLICK HERE
My apologies Dine Racoma, I edited the blog. Thanks for the headsup!
Monday, June 30, 2008
Presently, we have Roman Catholic, Born Again Christians, Iglesia Ni Cristo, El Shaddai and many others following Jesus Christ, therefore, NuSkinism is not within this category coz Jesus Christ never taught us to mislead and deceive people.
Then we have Muslim, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, and Juddaism.... but NuSkinism still does not fit in this category because all those other 5 religions still teaches good moral values.
NuSkinism is on its own, they have a god of their own. They use their "god" in order to recruit people. They use their "god" to give us, Christians, wisdom and enlightenment to join their cult.
Below are two examples taken from the website http://silkenhut.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/synergy-global-international/ on how people from the NuSkinism cult recruits. Notice how they use God in order for innocent people to join their cult and become deceivers and liars.
LL June 5, 2008 at 12:46 am Hey LL! Nice try for using God, but as you see, our God is not a god of liars. He is not a god of deceive. Nor ain't He a god of misrepresentation! I don't know with the god you have their at your own religion called NuSkinism but our almighty God in heaven is giving all of us Christians and others the knowledge and wisdom not to be mislead to join your cult their at the 15th floor Octagon bldg! That is what our God is doing for us. And thanks to this blog that people are seeing what kind of life they would have to put up with when they join your cult!
Now you mention Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump saying networking is actually good. Well it is true, the richest people builds networks, but then again, you in your cult may have a different version of Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump!
If you read Robert's Rich Dad Poor Dad, he mentioned that in a network marketing company, look for that company that will give you superb training that will make you good salesmen as to be good entrepreneurs in the future. But based on what I see in NuSkinism with your own rules and bible, a good salesman is a good liar, a good entrepreneur is a good misleader, and superb training is deceiving. I would never want such a training in my life, so as the other people here! We would end up in jail, but in your world of NuSkinism, doing such is legal!
Donald Trump never also mislead people to be up there, nor did he lie to investors to make it to the top, nor did he even deceive his clients to be rich! Common Nuskinism cult, do not use the name of these two great men! They do business the proper way, and not the NuSkinism way!
To_GOD_be_all_the_glory May 14, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Whatever you guys say,
first tignan mo muna kung anung kalagayan mo ngaun
- kung may trabaho ka ba?
- umaabot ba sa 100K yung sweldo mo?
Kung 100K nga
- may time ka pa ba kay LORD (do you still worship on Sundays?) or may time ka pa ba sa pamilya mo? (baka umuuwi ka lang tuwing may patay sainyo)
IF YOUR ANSWER IS NONE OF THE ABOVE
- May God give you wisdom and understanding.
One comment about the one who is on the chat above (kym)
you’re surely reinventing the wheel. Kaya ka tuloy natitira.
One comment about Lalen - walang personalan. If you’re not interested with the offer then decline agad.
One comment about this blog - Better consult the economists (or other educated people) who could give you facts/analysis,not people na wala namang alam sa topic pero comment nang comment… - these are people who would just rely on their own knowledge or knowledge they get from unstable resources (internet). People who believes in them do not get the best out of life and end up just like them. God bless you all.
Again, another great move by another member of the NuSkinism cult! Listen, who is to bless us? Your god our God almighty??? If it is our God almighty, then he is blessing us and giving us wisdom by making us not fall into your wrath of NuSkinism!
First of all, you assholes in NuSkinism better stop using God's name because God is not about to make us fall into your trap! Second, do not ever think you guys are richer than many of us here! I had met some people who lost money joining that cult of your and losing even more when they started doing your "system"! And I am happy God is giving us wisdom and understanding not to join!
Unstable resources??? Are you some fuckin naive crap playing innocent? Isn't it enough for these people to experience your manner of deception??? Experience is the best teacher, fuckin piece of shits! What my friend experienced when she flew in from Davao just to learn you are actually MLM or networking after you denied it over the phone is a clear example that the real fact is you guys teach people to deceive others and mislead those innocent ones! No need to prove that!
You are outnumbered! Go try it, go to google.com and type in NSE Philippines or even the address of your cult, then you will see how much more rants you get!
We would never wanna be part of your cult because we dont wanna end up like some fucked-up jerk like you in NuSkinism, who clearly practices the art of deception and the manner of misleading! Thanks but no thanks for the offer!
I told you I am so filthy rich that I have all the time in this world to write about you guys! I will not stop assholes! The only way for me to stop is for you guys to change your system of recruiting, but for as long as you follow the teaching in your cult, then I shall never stop!
Well based on our dictionary (and not yours), professional means...
Thats why people hate your "professional" members, because we normal people and not those who are members of your NuSkin cult, believes that being professional follows ETHICAL STANDARDS. Please take note of definition number 2: courteous, conscientious, businesslike manner! Do I have to define what each of those words mean based on our dictionary?
You are professionals? Deceiving is ethical to you guys? Misrepresenting is ethical? Misleading is conscientious?
Oh please NuSkin assholes, stop creating a bad name for the word "professional" because if Merriam-Webster where still alive, they could have sued all your asses up!
Maybe you guys also have your own bible!? Oh yeah how can I forget, you are a cult! A cult based at the 15th floor of the Octagon bldg in Ortigas! Why do you use God in your acts of deception? Why do you say "God be the glory to make you realize the opportunities you have lost"? BULLSHIT!
Who is your god? Who is your god located at the 15th floor of the Octagon bldg?! What other cult practices do you do aside from deceiving, misleading, lying and misrepresenting?
Go read and be proud of those hate blogs! And dont come up with bullshit that you are all rich, coz we all know you are all bullshit! You are all fucked up!
You are fuckin liars, Nuskin cult members!
Sunday, June 29, 2008
You guys at NuSkin ought to stop recruiting people to join your cult! Wake up to the world, deception does not work, assholes!
FYI, I am not against NuSkin or its products, I am against their manner of recruiting!
Well here is a helpful entry from Prudence's blog: Do read more about it.
- MLM Watch - The Skeptical Guide to Multilevel Marketing by Stephen Barrett, MD. It has a list of MLM companies. Also other news and updates related to MLM.
- NU Skin to pay $1.5 M penalty to resolve FTC charges over fat-loss claims for supplements - an article from Federal Trade Commissions in the U.S.
- Synergy One, Nu Skin, and MLM scam - another blogger’s post about his experience with MLM recruitment strategies.
- MLM Hotspot: 15th Floor Octagon Center, San Miguel Avenue, Ortigas - another blogger that an MLM company tried to recruit.
- MLM Companies Hitting the Philippine Shores by Ced Solidon
- Synergy Global International by Allen - I can’t believe that these recruiters are also using Y! messenger in their strategy. But, unfortunately, yes, they are using it. Read the transcript at Silkenhut’s Lair by clicking on the link.
Guys, they will tell you that they are very professional and will tell you to be on time because they are a US based company and they follow strict professionalism.
FUCKIN SHIT! Misleading is professionalism? Not answering questions directly is professionalism? You people at NSE Philippines or NuSkin are outta your fuckin mind! Victimizing innocent people is professionalism? Telling them to travel all the way from other places just to mislead them is professionalism? You assholes are the shit holes too!
I have all the time to write about you assholes coz I am rich and I do not need to work so much! I am even way richer than your highest earning scammer shit! I am so filthy rich that writing and exposing you fucked up tactics is my new biz! I can spend more than a thousand US$ just to expose your scam!
When my friend called me up crying after you guys victimized her, this became a wake up call for me! No I am not about to file charges, but I am just going to expose your trash so those people who would not wanna be victims to your wrath are well informed!
Stop using the word professional coz you guys at NSE Philippines are nothing but a bunch of fuckin liars! You give the word "professionalism" a bad name! If you think that your definition of professional is correct, then I would not wanna be known as professional to you coz I aint a scammer and a liar!
from janet794's blog
When I woke up today I saw this text message from ABC, daniel’s friend. He asked me to refer to him 20 contacts. I was pissed off. Let me tell you what happened to me and tintin the past week.
Thursday, Januay 10.
Tintin got a call from ABC. I don’t want to mention his name kasi he’s also a Mapuan. Pero we really don’t know him personally. We were even wondering where he got tintin’s number. Anyway, ABC was asking Tintin if she is interested in having a part time job. Sakto we are really looking for one so she said yes. She was told that she’ll be earning 15,000-30,000 pesos, not bad for a part time job. She was asked to come to their office the next day at 630pm, the address was 15th floor Octagon Bldg, San Miguel Ave. in Ortigas. The whole conversation daw was really fast and the line was choppy so she wasn’t able to ask for the company name and some other important details. All she got was the address. When tintin told me about it, we were both excited. But since siya lang ung tinawagan I asked if I could come along and bring my resume just in case pwede rin akong magapply. Excited din ako. Lol.
Friday, January 11.
After class, we went straight to Megamall to have lunch there tapos magliwaliw muna coz 630pm pa nga ung appointment dun sa “PART TIME JOB”.
When we got at the 15th floor of the Octagon Bldg we saw this huge PHARMANEX sign. There were lots of people on that floor. All of them were wearing business attires. I was thinking if we were on the wrong building or something kasi obviously we were on casual attire tapos kami lang ung mukang mga bata dun. Parang nawawalang bata kami. We didn’t have any idea what was going on. There was this small office na parang may nagaganap na interview. Basta wala kaming alam. Tapos napansin namin na beside that office e merong room which was filled with products. Tintin and I got the idea na NETWORKING BUSINESS eto. We wanted to leave the place right then and there. Pero ABC and DEF, parang upline something ni ABC, started to talk to us. Asked us why we wanted to have a part time job and what we would do to the money that we would get from “business”. Small talks lang. I don’t remember anything about them telling us the name of the “business.
After minutes of waiting, we were told to go inside a room with the rest of the people that were there. Sobrang dami namin dun. Cguro at least a hundred. Tintin and I were asked to sit apart. Pero dahil wala kaming kausap pareho and we were sitting there that seemed like forever(sobrang tagal kasi kami pinaghintay), I asked her na lumipat nalang sa tabi ko so we wouldn’t be bored to death.
It was almost 7pm. The presentation started. I saw the name “SYNERGY 1 VENTURES’ on top of the ppt slide. They were talking about NU SKIN ENTERPRISES, its background, the products they sell, and how we could be their partners. The whole presentation took 2 hours to finish. Grabe tagal. Pero I got interested. Ewan ko. When I heard I had to pay 12,600 pesos to be their partner, I was shocked. They said it was a small amount to pay dahil you’ll get 15k per month naman.
After the presentation. We were asked by DEF if we were interested. We said yes, but still told him that we have a problem getting the 12,600 kasi we’re still students and we do not know where to find the money. He was doing all the talking. He said he was able to pay for his college tuition fees since he started, he was able to go to hongkong, etc. because of the business. Masarap pakinggan diba. He said we are required to pay that Monday. GUlat ako e. I was thinking on how we can produce that big sum of money in just 2 days given that those 2 days are a Saturday and a Sunday. We were shown the products tapos un. He lent us a magazine that we could read. The magazine was obviously about NU SKIN din. He told us to meet them that Monday.
I was shocked pero I was determined to get the money and join them. SObra. I was so convinced with all DEF’s words that were stuck in my head (paying tuition fees on my own, helping my parents.. etc.. ). Tapos un.
Saturday and Sunday came. I wasn’t able to get the money I needed. I went through my mom’s things and found my passbook. I have 7000+ there. I planned on withdrawing 7K from my savings account. Uhm.. I was thinking twice. Pero dahil sa naiisip ko nanaman ung mga sinabi ni DEF e aion I took the passbook and put it in my bag.
DEF called me while I was in my class and scheduled the meeting. I told him mga 3pm nalang cguro kasi nga baka matraffic kami on the way there. I told him I was able to borrow 5k lang. he said it was okay and that he’ll find a way to help me come up with the rest of the money.
Tintin and I talked about it tapos aion I changed my mind. Not that I was influenced by her not to join “the business” but I was kinda hesitant kasi. She said if im not 100% sure then I might as well not pursue it. I texted DEF and told him im not joining anymore but I’ll meet up with him to return the magazine.
When he approached me sabi niya agad “What’s the problem?” tapos I told him ayaw ko na. Then he sweet talked me again. He said ok lang daw kung 5k muna ibigay ko. I was persuaded the second time. Ewan ko what was going on inside my head. I think that was greed. Lol. Pero honestly he was so good at talking. I was so convinced in joining… This second time he didn’t say the name of the business again. NU SKIN and PHARMANEX lang. tapos un. I said wala pa ung 5K sakin I have to get it from a friend. He said to fill up a form para mareserve ung slot ko since 5 lang daw ung kukunin. He said to meet with him the next day. And then he gave me a brochure.
Tintin was so mad at me. Kasi nmn daw hindi ko pinanindigan ung sinabi ko na hindi n ko sasali. Even ako nagulat e. Sa totoo lang hindi ko lam kung bakit bigla akong napaOO. Weird nga. Parang nahypnotize. Lol.
Tapos that night tintin did a research and found so many blog entries about it. Puro negative ung nakita ko. Biro mo kaya pala di nila masabi ung name ng company nila is because sobrang dami ng names na ginagamit nila. Ung nakita ko Synergy 1 Ventures pero meron pang Synergy Ventures tapos Synergy Global International. Tapos I read na pagkajoin mo e bibigyan ka ng homework na MAGGGAWA KA NG LIST NG 300 CONTACTS NA IREREFER MO AT TATAWAGAN. Tapos hindi ko pa nakitang registered sa DTI or any government offices ung company nila. Sabi nila registered daw sila sa SEC pero sabi ng mom ni tin madali lang daw magparegister dun sa SEC e. Although registered sila sa SEC, I still think they’re illegally operating. Kahit internationally recognized ung NU SKIN at kahit anu mang product or company un at KAHIT SAANG LUPALOP PA NG MUNDO NAKAREGISTER YANG COMPANY NILA PERO HINDI NAKAREGISTER NG MATINO SA PILIPINAS HINDI SIYA LEGAL DITO! They are going to make people sell medicines pero they do not even stress na BFAD approved un! Hay. People these days are just so into money that they deceive people just to get rich. Cruel noh.
I texted DEF the next day telling him that I wont be joining “again”. SAbi niya pumunta daw ako sa office niya still kasi dapat ko daw ibalik ung brochure na binigay niya sakin. What the f*ck! E photocopy lang naman un. As if namang hindi niya kaya magreproduce nung brochure na un. Kung mayaman siya he wouldn’t even bother asking me to bring it back to him. Another tactic. Im so glad I didn’t fall for it again.
ETO ANG LESSONG DUN.
WAG MAGPALOKO AT WAG MANLOKO.
I have nothing against MLM's (multilevel networking), pero ang ikinaasar namin dito ay ang fishy style of recruiting nila. kung titingnan mo, they talk to you all this good stuff pero hindi man nila ma-mention ng matino ang products nila. at ang legalities and policies ng company nila.
earning money is not bad. but if you earn money by "sweet talking" people and taking adavantage of thier vulnerability for money, hindi na ata tama yun.
we are mapuans. ika nga ng t-shirt na nakita ko na gawa ni lennie, "we can do better". kaya nga tayo nag-aaral ng mabuti ay para hindi tayo mauwi sa ganito. oo, nahihirapan rin ang ating mga magulang na pag-aralin tayo sa mapua, tapos malalaman lang din nila na nagnenetworking lang tayo? tapos pera pa nila ang ipapangbayad natin?
hindi ko siguro maibigay sa mga magulang ko ang mga uno sa subjects ko, pero may sapat akong respeto na ibinibigay sa kanila para patunayan na hindi mauuwi sa wala ang pinaghihirapan nila para sa pag-aaral ko.
in case you're interested, try typing 15th floor, octagon building on google.. see for yourself.
I will compile all stories on how unscrupulous and unethical these people does business and how they recruit. They play the game of deception and misleading!
Do not think you can make people rich NuSkin, you are just ruining their lives by creating more enemies for them and teaching them unethical business practices that they may get court cases later on! You will now be exposed fuckers!
I do not need you! I am rich! I am richer than most of you assholes! But I do business properly and I never mislead or misrepresent! I say the truth! I never lie when being asked! And these people ought to know that they can be rich without having to deceive and mislead!
Here are more stories of NSE Philippines aka NuSkin and their scammish tactics:
I was victimized by their bullshits twice, and many of my friends cancelled their important meetings because of these people from NuSkin Philippines saying that this is a business expansion and they need an exectuive director for this.
I am a businesman and I run 2 busineses already that are making huge amounts of income, therefore, I have no interest in these networking or MLM schemes. Whenever someone offers me to join in one, I always turn them down and nothing can convince me to join one.
Allow me first to share you my experiences and then I will share you my friends. Along the way, I will be highlighting key words. Those are the words you guys should take note of incase you get calls or emails from these people.
Incident # 1:
I got a call from this doctor saying that he was referred to me and that he is in need for a business partner for the expansion of a distribution business. Being the businessman I am, I was quite interested. In business, when we say expansion, we mean branching out or opening new divisions. Partner also meaning you own shares in the business. I then asked him what is the name of your company and he said it quite fast NSE Philippines. My mistake of not Googling it, but I clearly asked him "is this a networking or multi-level marketing offer" and he said "no it is not". He then told me to go to the 15th floor of the Octagon Bldg in Meralco Ave, ORtigas Center. On that day, I canceled two meetings because of this thinking that this is a new biz investment and not an MLM or Networking thing given the fact that he said it is not MLM or networking. Ok, so when I got to Octagon, I went to the guard to sign in the log book and guess what I saw, "NuSkin 15/f". I cursed really loudly saying "PUTANGINANG MGA NUSKIN NA YAN!!!" because I canceled an important meeting for this just to find out that it was a networking company I previously denied.
So pissed, I decided to take revenge and I called him saying would be in Octagon by 8:30pm. Meeting time was 6pm and I was actually there 5:30! I left right away. I called back at 8pm and I said I will be there 9:30pm and he said that he will wait. 9:45 came and he called me asking where I was and I said "on the way in EDSA, I will be there in 20 mins", but I was actually at home already. He then kept calling and I never picked up my phone.
I had to run from Laguna to Ortigas just to put up with this bullshit! Wasted more than 600 pesos gas in effect.
Incident # 2:
I got an email from this guys asking me if I would like to be a trainer for the T Harv Eker Secrets of the Millionaire Mind Seminar, and since I love teaching people how to be good entrepreneurs, I said "of course, but what is this all about?" He then called me up on my cellphone and told me that he is looking for members for his team elite that not only makes loads of money but will be training people also to do this. I said that I am interested but I asked him "are you sure this is not an invite to an MLM or networking company" and he said "no". I said "are you sure because if this is, better not waste your time on me because no convincing will let me join a single MLM or networking company" and he even said "it is not, I am telling you this is a training program based on Harv Eker's Secret of the Millionaire Mind." I then scheduled it in Greenbelt at Italianis Restaurant Dinner Time.
When we met, we first ordered food and I ordered an expensive pizza, then he talked about the training program but guess what, he said that there is practical training through fieldwork and I said "whaaaaaaa????" and then he said "you will also be part of an international company distributing health products..." and then I cut him short "wait, is this NuSkin?" and he said "actually, this company is..." when I again cut him short and asked with a raised tone "Is this NuSkin?"
He then gave in and said "yes it is" but before he can start yapping, I said in a loud voice that people can hear me "BULLSHIT! I ASKED YOU OVER THE PHONE IF THIS IS NETWORKING AND YOU SAID NO! DONT BULLSHIT ME FUCKER! NUSKIN IS MLM AND YOU SAID THIS IS NOT ONE! YOU FUCKIN WASTED MY TIME MORON! YOU AND YOUR NUSKIN COMPANY SHOULD BURN IN HELL! PAY FOR THE FOOD!" I then slammed the table and left. He was stunned!
The following week, I asked the staff of Italianis what happened to him and they told me that he did not have enough money to pay so he called up a firend to borrow money from because the bill was 1.5k.
Here are some of my friend's experiences:
Incident 1: (This came directly from her blog)
I generally don't bother to answer calls from numbers I don't recognize. I was in the middle of something when someone called me, ang cute kase ng phone number nya puro 2, kaya sinagot ko haha. Sabi niya... she is from a US Based Multinational Company and offering a part-time job with a compensation of 20-30k monthly.
They were looking for a Junior Executive DAW at ni refer daw ako ng friend ko. Kase sabi ng friend ko DAW I have the qualities that they are looking for... HARDWORKING (ahem!), COMITTED AND DEDICATED TO WORK(ay tama ule), COMPETITIVE AND GOAL ORIENTED(ako talaga hinahanap nila). Tapos sabay tanong niya... is that TRUE Ms.Gail?
Syempre sagot ko YES! hahaha!
Meron pa sya tanong na kung studying or working na daw ba ako. Sabi ko studying, ask nya where? sabi ko UP sabay sabi nya... Our company is looking for people from UP, Ateneo, UST and Lasalle. Ang bilis kasi magsalita nito hindi ako makatanong. Basta haba pa ng usapan namin na puro siya lang nagsasalita at sinasagot ko lang tanung nya. Then she asked me when can I go to their office for a job interview. I told her that I am busy this week. Sabi ko next week pa open sched ko. "How about Monday next week? Are you free?" she said. E wala pa naman ako sked on Monday saka mukhang magandang job to saka pwede part time e. Napa OO tuloy ako sabay sab niya "Ill just text you the details and please wear Smart casual."
Here's her text message,
My name is Ms. Gyzel Japones, My office is located at 15th floor octagon bldg. San Miguel Ave., Ortigas Pasig. See you on Monday by next week, it's 3:30pm June 23.
Parang duda ko sa name... Japones? meron ba ganun? I googled it, walang result.
She did not even give the name of the company, So i texted her again asking what's their company's name. When she replied, she said "NSE Philippines."
I googled NSE Philippines.... VOILA!
Salamat sa mga bloggers, there a lot of blogs out there ranting about NSE Philippines. Hindi naman ako gnun nlng maniniwala noh! Yung mga nabasa ko na blogs 2007 pa at hindi pa NSE Philippines ang ginagamit nila kundi Synergy One Global. Hello? 2008 na at bakit hindi ko alam to? May pa Junior executive pang hinahanap eh NETWORKING lang pala to. TAE!!!
A friend of mine one time wanted to borrow money from me to fly back to Davao. Well guess the reason why?
My friend lives in Davao and is looking for a job based in Davao to take care also of her sick mom.
She got a call from NSE Philippines, a distributorship for health and consumer products and they are looking for an executive badly needed na daw and she was told this was sure already. My friend who was so excited for it. She even never applied in NSE but was excited by the news. She was told that the interview will be held in Manila at the 15th floor Octagon bldg., Ortigas Center, hence, she sold her cellphone for a one way plane ticket. She even told her mom about this and her mom was happy and allowed her to work in Manila because the position seemed high. According to her, the offer was up to 50k per month and for a life in Davao, that was very high that she can clearly support her mom.
What she wanted was a job, and not a member ship in any MLM or networking. The following week when she got to Manila, she went straight to Octagon bldg. at the 15th floor or the floor of the scammers! Guess what, when she got there, she cried. She said no to NuSkin way before and when she met the one who invited her, she could not help but pour out her sorrows for bullshiting about this!
In the first place, why didn't the invitor even ask her about her situation and the invitor knew she was in Davao and flew to Manila for this. My friend had no 20k, the joining fee for NuSkin and she flew to Manila coz she wanted an immediate job with a fixed 15-30 salary.
She right away gave me a call, of course nahihiya siya but when she told me what happened, I told her not to give back the money I lent her for the plane ticket back to Davao. I booked her a flight and I paid it instead. I also gave her extra cash incase of anything. See, I lost another 2k due to the NuSkin bullshit!
To you readers thinking of joining this as a training to be a good entrepreneur, do you think misrepresenting and misleading people is the proper way of doing business? Yes you may make money from NuSkin, but for how long? Have you even ever thought of how many people you may get pissed off?
That is what NuSkin training is all about. Misrepresenting, misleading and lying to other people or "potential investors". These are not the only incidents of NuSkin people bullshitting, but there is just so much of it!
Now, do not think I am writing this because I am part of another MLM or networking, absolutely wrong. I feel all MLM companies in the Philippines are like NuSkin, that is why I do not want to join a single one. I do not want to lose potential business, nor be called a scammer! I am not a liar too! Why not say "yes it is networking" when being asked in the start? Afraid of losing people? Dont you guys think it is even more stupid not to say it MLM and when you meet up with the person, you admit it actually is? I think that is more bullshit then anything!
They teach you daw to be professional businessmen. Professional?
Is misrepresenting a show of a professional businessman?
Is lying a show of a professional businessman?
If you think it is, I can't wait to watch you on the evening news being sued in court!
Now that you all know the keywords, what are you to do?
1. Ask them what company and what is the nature of the biz. Normally, they give you a phone call and from there, you have to extract the eggs. NuSkin people makes use of those words above, so take note of them. If they say "NSE PHILIPPINES", then that is NuSkin. If they do not give you a direct answer but instead says "me and my partners will discuss the business with you", then read below.
2. Once you get that, ask if it is MLM or multi-level marketing. If they say "it is not", ask what it is. If they say we sell consumer products and health care, ask them to email you a visual material. If they do not do that, then its networking. Put down the phone in that case, but do not forget to tell them you are not interested.
3. To make sure, ask for their email addresses. If they say that it is not an MLM or networking or anything like it, ask them to sign an agreement. You may email or fax it. Put their if it is an MLM company or networking, they will pay for your food, gas, and parking plus you have the option to join or not. Normally, they will not do this unless they got money to waste. If they say yes, you choose the resto and get an expensive one.
Remember, a non-mlm company will even send you company profiles and pictures.
4. About the seminar, ask about the name of the seminar sponsor and do research on google. NSE or NuSkin makes use of reknowned entrepreneurial seminars like Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad Poor Dad, or Harv Eker's Secrets of the Millionaire Mind.
The reason why I am writing this against NuSkin and maybe later on against those MLM companies here who does unethical business practices is because of what has happened to me and my friends. I just feel I can't take their bullshits and victimizing anymore, especially to what happened to my friend from Davao.
I will be posting more stories here about these scammers!
If you guys got your stories, email them to me
I will post them up here.